Anonymous said: Regarding the lolita anon; I don't think it can be comparable as people of other ethnicity wearing Native American clothes. The lolita fashion may be a Japanese subculture, but it's based on Rococo period, hence the Victorian style clothing. As far as I know, everyone, regardless of their race and belief can wear it. I think anon just doesn't like seeing black people wearing lolita, tbh. It's not unusual having elitists looking down on people who are not white/asian wearing lolita clothes.
Anonymous said: Good to know my thoughts as a Japanese person aren't respected here. I guess something has to be sacred on a religious level to be a problem for you. Never mind the perpetuation of stereotypes in this style. I guess it's now okay for me to dress in baggy pants, bling and a jersey and say "look I'm black!"
That’s not remotely true. I respect Japanese culture. I respect it enough to know that Lolita is a fashion sub-culture that welcomes all ethnicities. I’m not going to continue this thread, as it seems like it’s not going to be productive. Feel free to pm/ email me & ill respond privately, but this is just devolving.
Anonymous said: If you truly call out everybody then I encourage you to look at the black girls who dressed up as lolitas and got 100s of "soooo adorable!" notes. That style is ripped directly from Japanese culture & I was really offended to see those girls like that - & worse, nobody saw anything wrong with it. White ppl get called out in an instant for shit like that as they should, but not a peep for these girls. user: dapperbitchmalice url: /post/11899483624/sad-very-sadbread-lock-the-doors-they-may-be
Lolita culture is not sacred. It’s not the same at all. The Lolita community welcomes all races. Native Americans are not a ‘style phenomenon’. These things are unrelated.
Anonymous said: As a child I did admire the character Pocahontas and I think the attack on the girl who said she "wanted to be a native" or whatever is unfair. Her wanting to be a native american probably had little to do with the race but more to do with the culture. Its interesting and beautiful... and of course deserves respect. I think she poorly communicated the feeling we all get when we wonder what it would be like to experience/be part of another amazing culture.
I attacked no one. And if we are really going to start throwing ‘unfair’ around, I think getting called out on an act of complicit, if not intentional racism falls pretty low on the scale compared with the daily experiences of systematic racism, oppression and dismissal native people experience every day. Now THAT actually is pretty damn ‘unfair.’
This is a great article written by a Native American lawyer backing up the idea about how wrong “Indian” costumes are.
walking-love-incarnate said: What can I do when I see someone with an offensive costume? I saw a couple (white) people on the bus yesterday with the stereotypical feather headdress and beads and fringe vests going to a Halloween party. I felt absolutely disgusted, but I was just rendered speechless. Can I do or say anything? How do you handle situations like this?
One way is to let them do most of the talking. Ask questions. Start a conversation. Keep it focused on what they are wearing, and not who they are. Keep it casual, because when people feel cornered, they lash out, and you need to keep your physical & mental self safe.
Anonymous said: How would you like it if you were constantly referred to as "Brown" or "Red"? Your generalizations about "white" people are often as offensive as the racism you argue against, racism that is demonstrated by far more than just "white people." There are plenty of Hispanic/Latino, African American and Asian people appropriating and shitting on Native culture this Halloween. The way to end racism is by not practicing it yourself first.
White is not a slur. White people are not marginalized. I call out everyone, indiscriminate of race. White people just happen to be the overwhelming majority of appropriators.
My spirit name is “Drinks With Vodka”. I’m gonna fuck shit up tonight.
Oh dear, well…umm…”Drinks with Vodka” I’m kinda hoping someone calls you out tonight about your offensive costume and name. I mean it’s not like real Natives struggle with Alcoholism more than any other race…
And this is why I’m not leaving my house for all of Halloween weekend.
Your mother and I are very disappointed.
As nice as you look in red and brown, it’s pretty offensive. That’s someone’s culture and heritage that you’re wearing.
for a second I thought she had german flags on her face
how the dicks is that offensive
that’s like saying that someone dressing in a top hat, monocle, a set of fake bad teeth, and suit, and them claiming that they’re being an englishman is offensive
which is isn’t
but uh I did think those were german flags on her face initially as well I’m glad I wasn’t the only one
RACISM AND TUMBLR….
NGL, the “dressing in a top hat, monocle, a set of fake bad teeth, and suit, and them claiming that they’re being an englishman” would probably piss me, an English person, off a great deal actually.
Guys I think you’re getting a bit too butthurt over Halloween costumes. There’s been lots of shit like this on my dash for the past few days and everyone has been labeling innocent costumes as “OMFG OFFENSIVE!!!!1”. I can’t really talk about this costume in particular since I’m not Native American (or American at all for that matter) but whenever I see someone dressing up as something that’s relevant to me (A very stereotypical Scotsman, for example) I just see the fun side of it and move on. This is just my opinion guys, so please don’t start shit because of it. You’re free to think what you want.
thanks for whitesplaining why everyone’s being too sensitive about cultural appropriation, geesh.
you’re free to be offended or not offended by portrayals and costuming of your own culture, but I would caution against using this as logic for why “everyone else is just acting butthurt and silly.” Scottish people have not experienced the levels of oppression and erasure in American society that native americans have. The stories of their struggles are completely different and so the magnitude of offensiveness in “dressing up” is also completely different.
If you’re going to have an opinion at least own up to the fact that someone might call you out on it, why throw in lines about “this is just my opinion, if you don’t like it please don’t tell me what’s the issue here”? Free speech comes with the knowledge that you can and will be critiqued for what you say. Even the most offhanded of words and actions have real power- which is why that logic is wrong, and why this costume is wrong.
feminist disney is on point.
Jack Skye’s brilliance:
"Cotton was used in both hemispheres prior to ‘contact’ between them, probably because it’s good for making textiles and different people at different times in entirely different places were intelligent enough to figure this out.
The point is that it’s not something exclusive to ‘white’ cultures. There are lots of other things First Nations peoples developed which are borrowed by Europeans, rubber, a wide variety of medicines, agricultural methods used in bio-intensive and sustainable agriculture, french fries. The point is that some things are shared and that’s o.k., others are sacred, and it’s disrespectful to glibly appropriate sacred things, particularly from cultures where those things have been forcibly suppressed or outlawed. It is also important to consider the history of how things get shared. I wear ‘western’ style clothing and speak English because my ancestors had the Ojibway beaten out of them, were forced to abandon traditional dress, and in the society I live in there are consequences that fall on individuals who dress too much outside of the mainstream. When white people imitate sacred dress they see in the media or in museums, they don’t consider that sacred objects ended up in museums because they were literally stolen from indigenous people who were legally prohibited from possessing them until relatively recently.”
"it must be really nice for this person to be able to put on and take off their cultural identity as they seem fit, right? "i’m white so don’t take my shit, but wait i’m sioux so i’ll use this as a prop to make my opinion seem more valid, but then… i wear jeans! OH MY GOD" *implosion*"
Privilege: when you get to wear your identity like a costume, inhabiting all spaces and none at the same time. Choose to participate if you like, or not, it’s up to you! You have all the trump cards. Why should anyone else even bother playing?
youeatdogfood-deactivated201307 said: The internet is the "melting pot of the world", hahaha.
I know. Ridiculous.
Also, in Canada, the term “melting pot” is kind of a dirty word. We much prefer to use “Cultural mosaic” because that implies more of a shared existence, and less of a blending through erasing/loss of roots. We can coexist and share without having to sacrifice our identities. There is no idealized normal in the mosaic model. I think that’s what most people mean when they say melting pot nowadays, but they don’t realize how antiquated the term has really become.
picturemethin said: Please refrain from wearing jeans, and causal tops. That's being disrespectful to my culture. So is this tumblr actually. I have 1/8 Sioux in me, personally. Other members of my family are full blooded Cherokee or half. I find THIS offensive because you are saying that your culture is reserved for your self and only those you deem fit. This is the melting pot of the world. Don't disrespect others, or your own tribe. Oh, and speaking English is part of my CULTURE and I'm fed up with you using it.
Your argument is tired. I’ve answered questions exactly like it at least 4 times now.
There are others, but I’m too tired to go find them. Give the blog a read before you get reactionary and defensive. You’ll find that there’s some real thought, substance and rationality behind what I have to say.
46thandbliss said: I'm like 1/16th Navajo. And I don't mind telling people either.
That’s really not the point. I don’t mind disclosing in general, in person, when asked in a respectful manner— but the question was rudely phrased, and intrusive. I have stated many times that I prefer to not disclose my tribal affiliations for myriad necessary reasons.
Dear Person that decided to dress up as an Indian for Halloween,
I was going to write you an eloquent and well-reasoned post today about all the reasons why it’s not ok to dress up as a Native person for Halloween—talk about the history of “playing Indian” in our country, point to the dangers of stereotyping and placing of Native peoples as mythical, historical creatures, give you some articles to read, hope that I could change your mind by dazzling you with my wit and reason—but I can’t. I can’t, because I know you won’t listen, and I’m getting so tired of trying to get through to you.
I just read the comments on this post at Bitch Magazine, a conversation replicated all over the internet when people of color are trying to make a plea to not dress up as racist characters on Halloween. I felt my chest tighten and tears well up in my eyes, because even with Kjerstin’s well researched and well cited post, people like you are so caught up in their own privilege, they can’t see how much this affects and hurts their classmates, neighbors and friends.
I already know how our conversation would go. I’ll ask you to please not dress up as a bastardized version of my culture for Halloween, and you’ll reply that it’s “just for fun” and I should “get over it.” You’ll tell me that you “weren’t doing it to be offensive” and that “everyone knows real Native Americans don’t dress like this.” You’ll say that you have a “right” to dress up as “whatever you damn well please.” You’ll remind me about how you’re “Irish” and the “Irish we’re oppressed too.” Or you’ll say you’re “German”, and you “don’t get offended by people in Lederhosen.”
climbingamountainwithawolf said: What kind of Indian are you?
The kind that hates getting asked this question.